By Baz Macdonald and Kahu Kutia
“I've had many conversations where it is like, ‘Oh that's so cool that you're learning te reo Māori, it's such a good hobby to have’. It’s like, no, I’m not learning how to knit, I’m not learning how to dance. Those things are amazing. I’m learning my voice.”
Two generations discuss their journeys with te reo Māori. Karen Leef (Ngā Puhi, Te Rarawa, Tau’tu, Aitutaki) and Joyce Kupe-Stephens (Te Aupōuri) sat down to talk about their shared histories, struggles and successes.